KCron, gnome-schedule, or other cron GUI ?

[kdemeoz]

Hi

I learned today of the existence of kcron & gnome-schedule, but...

kcron:

Code:

Z97-HD3:/$ sudo apt-get install kcron
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree      
Reading state information... Done
The following additional packages will be installed:
 kde-config-cron
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 kcron kde-config-cron
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Z97-HD3:/$ kcron
No command 'kcron' found, did you mean:
Command 'mcron' from package 'mcron' (universe)
Command 'cron' from package 'cron' (main)
Command 'gcron' from package 'glusterfs-server' (universe)
kcron: command not found

Would this imply it's exclusively a KDE4 pgm & incompatible with Plasma5? Any known workarounds pls?

gnome-schedule:

Code:

kdemeoz-VirtualBox:~/Private/Documents/temp$ sudo apt-get update
Lots
    of
       stuff
kdemeoz-VirtualBox:~/Private/Documents/temp$ sudo apt-get install gnome-schedule
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree      
Reading state information... Done
E: Unable to locate package gnome-schedule
@kdemeoz-VirtualBox:~/Private/Documents/temp$

Rats !

Any known alternative suitable cron GUIs pls?

[leszek]

Kcron could be kde4libs still. Have you tried finding it in systemsettings?
If it isn't there maybe it appears then in the kcmshell4 list. (just execute the --list and look for kcron)
You can then start it with kcmshell4 name_of_the_module.

Ideally kcmshell4 kcron

[kdemeoz]

Kcron could be kde4libs still. Have you tried finding it in systemsettings?

Sorry, i don't understand. I searched for "kcron" in the Application Menu's search field, & also in KRunner, but they found nothing. Is that what you meant? Anyway, even trying to launch it from Konsole failed. 

If it isn't there maybe it appears then in the kcmshell4 list. (just execute the --list and look for kcron)
You can then start it with kcmshell4 name_of_the_module. 

Ideally kcmshell4 kcron

Again, sorry but i don't understand. Is this what you meant?

Code:

Z97-HD3:/$ kcmshell4 --list
The following modules are available:
bookmarks              - Configure the bookmarks home page
cache                  - Configure web cache settings
componentchooser       - Choose the default components for various services
cookies                - Configure the way cookies work
device_automounter_kcm - Configure automatic handling of removable storage media
ebrowsing              - Configure enhanced browsing
emoticons              - Choose Emoticon Theme
filetypes              - Configure file associations
icons                  - Customize KDE Icons
k3bsetup               - K3bSetup – modify permission for CD/DVD burning with K3b
kcm_adobe_flash_player - Configure Adobe Flash Player
kcm_attica             - Manage Social Desktop Providers
kcm_kdnssd             - Configure service discovery
kcm_phonon             - Settings for the Phonon multimedia framework
kcm_ssl                - SSL Versions and Certificates
kcmcgi                 - Configure the CGI KIO slave
kcmkded                - KDE Services Configuration
kcmnotify              - System Notification Configuration
kcmperformance         - Configure settings that can improve KDE performance
kcmtrash               - Configure trash settings
khtml_appearance       - Configure how to display web pages
khtml_behavior         - Configure the browser behavior
khtml_filter           - Configure Konqueror AdBlocK filters
khtml_general          - Configure general Konqueror behavior
khtml_java_js          - Configure the behavior of Java and JavaScript
kresources             - Configure KDE Resources
language               - Language, numeric, and time settings for your particular region
netpref                - Configure generic network preferences, like timeout values
proxy                  - Configure the proxy servers used
smb                    - Use to configure which windows (SMB) filesystems you can browse
spellchecking          - Configure the spell checker
useragent              - Configure the way Konqueror reports itself
Z97-HD3:/$

[leszek]

I was wrong. Kcron is kf5 based already.
And it is a kcm (KDE Control Module) so it should show up in systemsettings.
Not sure how it is called though. But maybe the systemsettings search can help you finding it.

[kdemeoz]

I searched in System Settings for kcron, but it found nothing. I repeated yesterday's apt installation attempt, but it told me the latest version is already installed... but again, it is not in the Applications Menu, System Settings, nor will it launch [as user nor sudo] in Konsole [says "No command 'kcron' found," & "command not found" respectively].

[leszek]

As I said it won't appear in applications or will be able to run as command kcron as it is a kde control module which means it only appears in the systemsettings.
I bet it isn't called kcron but something else. Though I am not sure what that is actually. But it must be there

[AJSlye]

It would indeed be in the System Settings, it will be labelled as Task Scheduler..

It will also show up in the search of krunner, system settings and the menu if you type just cron and not kcron, or task, task works too.
   
   

[kdemeoz]

Contrary to the assurance of both of you, & despite your two pics AJ, none of what you said is correct for me. Given per separate thread my Tower remains unavailable at the moment, my remarks just now apply only to my Lappy's Maui 2.1.

Searching for "cron" in all those places only finds Startup & Shutdown in System Settings [which does not have a 5th tab for Task Scheduler, unlike your pic]; System Settings - Autostart in KRunner; & Autostart in Application Menu.

Searching in those same places for "task" only reveals taskbar, taskbar thumbnails effect, & Task Switcher; System Settings - Task Switcher; & Task Switcher, respectively.

Does this imply there's a Plasma5 package missing from my Maui?

Furthermore, if you see the various pics here for gnome-schedule https://www.maketecheasier.com/easy-way-...in-ubuntu/ , it seems to be quite different to Task Scheduler, at least as far as i can tell given i've only seen your own 2 pics, but so far have not / can not actually try it myself.

[leszek]

Tested again on a fresh Maui 2.1 install. Installed kcron and found it then under systemsettings -> startup and shutdown -> task scheduler.

Can you try reinstalling the kde-config-cron kcron packages.

[kdemeoz]

Fabulous, that fixed it nicely.

FYI, this was not a REinstallation -- neither package was already installed. I wonder why the Installer skipped them back during my Maui installation?

Thank you [& btw, yes it does look as powerful a GUI as the gnome one, yay].