23rd February 2017, 7:38
(This post was last modified: 23rd February 2017, 7:53 by kdemeoz.
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Hi rocky
Thanks. Yes i see your point.
I read your reply last night, but chose to mull it over for a while, rather than ploughing ahead with it then & there. Coincidentally, Update Manager has, for the past day or two, been offering me another kernel update [from 4.4.0-63 to 4.4.0-64], & so today, whilst still mulling, i decided to let it update [now that 4.9.9 is gone, & 4.8.x HWE no longer seems recommended to my scenario]. I had not intended at the time to commit to any decision either way re Intel vs Nvidia gpus, & Nouveau vs Nvidia drivers... was going to still mull those issues over after the routine kernel update.
Except, the update proved not to be routine at all. Of course i rebooted once the new kernel was installed, but... had the unexpected "pleasure" of another black screen after the second Maui splash-screen, instead of the login screen. I believe/suspect this was likely due to the graphics state having been "neither Arthur nor Martha", per your observation from my last pics that it was simultaneously indicating that both Nouveau AND Nvidia drivers were set.
Given this [black screen] predicament, & though i'd not previously intended to do it at that point in time, i made an opportunity out of the necessity to rescue my boot yet again. Notwithstanding your well-argued advice, i decided to have one final fling with Nouveau, but with Intel not Nvidia gpu [& not at this stage physically removing the card]. It took a few shuttles back & forth between Plasmashell & TTY, prime-selecting Intel gpu, edits & unedits of grub [nomodeset in/out/in/out], boots & reboots, to finally arrive at this intended status of Intel GPU with Nouveau driver [ie, no longer indicating graphics self-contradiction like before]:
So, my plan now is:
1. Retain this combination for as long as i can before Tower next freezes.
2. If it does freeze, abandon my fantasy & instead immediately proceed with your latest recommendations.
3. If it does not freeze, then this simply becomes my new default configuration.
I suppose that "watch this space" is an appropriate closing remark [albeit, i sincerely hope there'll be no further need for me to add to this long thread...???].
Thanks. Yes i see your point.
I read your reply last night, but chose to mull it over for a while, rather than ploughing ahead with it then & there. Coincidentally, Update Manager has, for the past day or two, been offering me another kernel update [from 4.4.0-63 to 4.4.0-64], & so today, whilst still mulling, i decided to let it update [now that 4.9.9 is gone, & 4.8.x HWE no longer seems recommended to my scenario]. I had not intended at the time to commit to any decision either way re Intel vs Nvidia gpus, & Nouveau vs Nvidia drivers... was going to still mull those issues over after the routine kernel update.
Except, the update proved not to be routine at all. Of course i rebooted once the new kernel was installed, but... had the unexpected "pleasure" of another black screen after the second Maui splash-screen, instead of the login screen. I believe/suspect this was likely due to the graphics state having been "neither Arthur nor Martha", per your observation from my last pics that it was simultaneously indicating that both Nouveau AND Nvidia drivers were set.
Given this [black screen] predicament, & though i'd not previously intended to do it at that point in time, i made an opportunity out of the necessity to rescue my boot yet again. Notwithstanding your well-argued advice, i decided to have one final fling with Nouveau, but with Intel not Nvidia gpu [& not at this stage physically removing the card]. It took a few shuttles back & forth between Plasmashell & TTY, prime-selecting Intel gpu, edits & unedits of grub [nomodeset in/out/in/out], boots & reboots, to finally arrive at this intended status of Intel GPU with Nouveau driver [ie, no longer indicating graphics self-contradiction like before]:
So, my plan now is:
1. Retain this combination for as long as i can before Tower next freezes.
2. If it does freeze, abandon my fantasy & instead immediately proceed with your latest recommendations.
3. If it does not freeze, then this simply becomes my new default configuration.
I suppose that "watch this space" is an appropriate closing remark [albeit, i sincerely hope there'll be no further need for me to add to this long thread...???].