23rd February 2017, 13:41
(23rd February 2017, 11:55)rocky7x Wrote: Hi,
Well, you have to understand a few facts, which I think you still haven't completely comprehended:
1. when you get a new kernel in the 4.4 branch, it has nothing but security updates, so from "can it make my hw work better" perspective it does nothing
2. therefore hoping on the HWE train is a much better option, since it can indeed make your hardware work better and solve issues you have, thus the HWE kernel 4.8 is from a desktop usage perspective much better
3. having Nvidia driver installed and using Nouveau is not really a stable situation, more or less a ticking bomb, because you are mixing drivers - e.g. using prime-select and then using Nouveau, well I'm surprised that it even works
So, if you leave it as it is and it works for an indefinite time, OK, I guess using the don't-fiddle-with-it-if-it-works approach is acceptable. But if it starts crashing again, you should definitely examine the options described previously.
Re the kernel, there definitely has been a misunderstanding between us. The reason i wrote in my last post:
Quote:now that 4.9.9 is gone, & 4.8.x HWE no longer seems recommended to my scenario
...was explicitly because i interpreted your:
Quote:Since we have pretty much confirmed that:
1. changing the kernel has not helped, so better return to the standard one than have upstream which can have other issues
...as meaning that you no longer thought i should climb aboard the HWE train; i thought by "standard" you meant 4.4.x. Pls recall that in my recent posts i had been saying that i did want to do that, but i thought your 2nd-last post indicated you'd changed your mind. If in fact as it now seems, you still advocate 4.8 HWE, i am all for it !! So tomorrow, that's what i shall do:
Code:
sudo apt-get install --install-recommends xserver-xorg-hwe-16.04
Re your:
Quote:3. having Nvidia driver installed and using Nouveau is not really a stable situation, more or less a ticking bomb...you are clearly vastly more experienced & knowledgeable about all this stuff than i am, so pls read the following as an(other) indicator merely of my naive confusion, not impertinent contradiction... your statement puzzles me, given that the Maui Settings' Driver Manager clearly provides users the choice [pic #2 in my previous post] of Nvidia drivers or Nouveau, & i picked Nouveau this time. If indeed this "time-bomb" does detonate on me, i accept it's entirely my fault & i shan't waste anyone's time by further whinging about it here.
Re your:
Quote:But if it starts crashing again, you should definitely examine the options described previously
...I do not disagree one iota; my #2 in my previous post indicated this. If this is indeed what transpires, i will only come back to this thread with more questions if when i try to deploy your recommendations of blacklisting Nouveau etc i find something that i can't understand.
Many thanks once more.